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today's most forward thinking musicians, musicians
that go beyond the norm to explore all aspects of sound to create their
compositions. It mentions artists such as Aphex Twin, Autechre, Mouse on
Mars and many others.
!f (Wire magazine, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Mouse on Mars == forward thinking)
perm!t zom 1 2 re eval t!me.
sincerely,
prev.

"netochka nezvanova dislikes : sincerity (off all kinds)"
visit us
ja. d.akord. ma!z. 1zt l!ztn. du. + addtl 4uard th!nk!ng objektz.

`perm!t zom 1 2 re eval t!me`

uen 0+0 l!f 4rm azkz m! ! = knou.
ma!z !f 0+1 l!f 4rm = kuer!ez +
`!` = atempt 2 eczpla!n ! != an! lngr knou


kuer! _ - du = komprehnd +?





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For the record....A9FF does not sound like AFX. Perhaps if the Aphex Twin
consumed 10 sheets of acid while reading Hawkins there would be a resemblance.

APHEX is cyclical....A9FF is spiral, oscillation and broken cycles, fragments
and disconnected (yet fluid) ideas.
You can't dance to it, unless you were twitching in the overpowering forces of
enlightenment. A9FF is the real soundtrack to pi.

And throbbing gristle? Does anyone LISTEN to anything anymore?
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RE: kr0p3r0m
Got the CD today...Good stuff.
Sounds like a sick mix of AFX, Haujobb, and Throbbing Gristle attitudes.
It probably *is* AFX. He does a bit of programming himself these days, most
likely using Max on the Mac. And not a lot else these days, according to
Tom Jenkinson aka Squarepusher (interviewed in Wire).
kr0p3r0m != AFX && kr0p3r0m != Haujobb && kr0p3r0m != Throbbing Gristle
Heh...pure electronic noise terrorism...
I'll bet. I'll order my own soon.
comp.ai.psykology
Jeremy.
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*I'm new to the list, pardon my illicit ramblings.
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To: =cw4t7abs


so it =
i just dug up something at , where i have been >< regularly reading your posts for 2 years
i am disturbed to hear that you have this disease, . everyone dies, netochka, who manages to exist as you have for me. i love your work. i think what you communicate is genius. i wonder still if netochka nezvanova is a neoist collective identity, but i don't think so. i think that netochka nezvanova = (0+1) human body oscillating sufficiently and with genius. i dig all of the w.reich/sexpol material. should your fingertips stop tapping. well. many tears and many days. and much work. understand that this = one love letter
by the way, i figured out your and am loving it. you provoke life everywhere your data appears. your data provokes information. big difference. how often data in-forms form itself = beyond resemblance and differenciating repetitions . . .
so this = 1 love letter from a lo-tekk academiasukkr type painter in 1 grad program at Rhode Island School of Design UsA boom-hi.
I pay my tarriffs honey, and i invite any demands if you happen to have suffered the NATO routine. Your work. This demands all i have to offer, it provokes me and i paint, i write, i love. As 1 human data display of correct behavior you demand an adequacy that is > than most are capable of willing. I keep a slide show of your kinematic images running often in my studio while i work. what you do with cathode rays is incredible. If you had a billboard type display to play with as mural - because your images need pixels - but how much adoration can you stand? everyone dies, netochka, who manages to exist as my eyes read your work. you would join:

Wilhelm Reich

William Burroughs

Derek Jarman

Gilles Deleuze

Elias Canetti

Guy Debord

there are a couple more, but i discovered their work and most died soon after, except Wilhelm Reich whose end was just such a terrifying spectacle of human cruelty. Coldness and cruelty. You see, you are, if you are (0+1) female then you= dispell the myth i find often told by european males, the misogeny that Cannetti's "Auto de Fé" was concerned with and that that beautiful film "Romance", contemporary french film, what human error/straitjacket/parachute it eloquently described an error women fall for. you dispel its claim to necessity. that list above, it contains no men because the women, their deaths do not arrive for me in such a disturbing fashion. we need to swell the # of one-ly-nesses. your work generates past the hierarchies of nations and misogenies of gendered humans.human miso-gen(itive)y.
your e.mail campaigns and the murtagh situation was pure human genius = as it stands.
anyway, i appreciate the work you live. human creativity and love educates and disciplines the mødel of civilization.




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= korporat fasc!zm = dze real revoluz!on l!f 4rmz = kurntl! l!v!ng
\/\ = mp3.male f!lth = !cmc.male fasc!zt f!lth = mcg!l.un!v male f!lth = z!kl!ng 44 male f!lth

alorz _..


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http://www.m9ndfukc.org/pre.doktoral.massively.parallel.metamodeling.meme.kompetition/
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/korporat/starledger_inter.bzzp.html

_>> anderen webseiten.

http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~chris/dear_antiorp.html
http://www.mcgill.ca/ kriztallnacht +
http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html kriztallnacht +
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/mcgill-lizt_ounr/ kriztallnacht +
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Happy new year all.
You seem, Richard, to think that the gift economy is "new". Of course, it
isn't. The net merely marks a change in its modality (as it does for the
modalities of all the other not-new "things" you mention). Nor is the
"free" distribution of "intellectual" labour new. But the new mode of
distribution is not free at all, neither in the vulgar sense you seem to be
construing the term "free" (free of monetary exchange, i.e. as the
generally accepted representative of wealth or value, hence as "free" from
capitalist exchange), nor in the Marxist sense of value as objectified
labour time. In fact, what you are talking about is not outside capital. It
is, rather, almost pure surplus-value, pure appropriation on the part of
the owners of the means of circulation (which in hypercapitalism is also a
means of intellectual labour, production, exchange, etc). Given your
Saint-Simonian leanings, perhaps you would prefer to see the phenomenon you
are trying to describe as pure "self-sacrifice". If so, say it.
In any case, if we take either of the conceptions of value (or not-value,
"free") that I have mentioned above as your point of departure in terms of
defining a "free" economy of communal "giving", then both conceptions
render your characterisation inaccurate.
First, if we take "free" as merely being the absence of wages for the
intellectual labour (a spurious means of maintaining a social distinction
in any case: all labour is both intellectual and physical, with ideal _and_
material aspects) which is so freely distributed, or as the absence of
monetary payment for these products of labour time, we enter into a series
of paradoxes. A neat demonstration of this by you of the gift economy at
the Cybersociety conference: you asserted that we had all come to "give a
paper" and that this was a part of the gift economy.
Maybe.
However, we gave our papers inside large buildings. They were printed and
sold in big fat books. The University employed people to run it. We paid
conference fees and so on for the opportunity to give our papers (or was it
the opportunity to be seen to be giving?) and to hear and see others. Many
of us get assessed as wage-earners on our ability to "give" such socially
specific gifts. Publishers' books were sold on-site. There were plastic
doodads and knicknacks manufactured specially for dozens of people.
Visiting luminaries were paid for their offerings. By the number of
overseas delegates, I would have to guess that the transport companies and
so on did quite well out of the Cybersociety conference "gift economy" too.
The moment of "giving" a paper at a conference - when seen as "free" in
this sense - is merely an historically, socially, and processually
isolated, decontextualised moment in a much larger economic field
constituted by legions of academics in the academic industry that merely
gives the illusion of being for "free". So is downloading "free" music off
the web. Behind these moments, supporting and surrounding them, is a
massive economic infrastructure that has very little to do with anything
other than the process of producing, reproducing, and expanding various
capitals, and thus capital as a whole. An analogy for your characterisation
might be one person giving another a lift to work. It's just a moment in
the larger process of capital, thoroughly embedded, thoroughly infused,
only apparently "free".
Continuing on with the conception of "free" as meaning "free of charge" (on
either side of the production process): you seem to think that the
distribution of free music is a new phenonenon. I disagree, and clearly
this an historical fact (cf. folk music, people playing at parties, charity
concerts, etc). But I think that less music is done for free (art pour
l'art) now than ever. That's because every third person wants to be a star
in the music industry. That's why they are willing to pay to play (see
below). MP3's just a shift in modality, a definitive example of McLuhan's
"juicy piece of meat" where the internet is concerned, no different from
porn, closely compared to it by some pundits in fact. But most people who
produce music for distribution using MP3 are just dodging the monopolistic
practices of the mainstream music industry in an effort to make some money
and a name for themselves. Fine. But let's not dress it up as anything
else. Further, people's use of MP3 has already sparked off a flood of
intellectual property debates, litigation, etc, as well as new lines of
hardware complete with international television advertising (I'm talking
about those annoying "D" ads for the MP3 players that look like walkmans
[TM] but play MP3 files). MP3 has the same centralising tendency as any
capital.
For people who _don't_ want their music distributed for "free", MP3 can
look more like a theft economy than a gift economy. But musicians are used
to being robbed, whether by outright plagiarism, pirate practices,
sampling, the pitiful fees paid to musicians, the extortionate practices of
the music industries, production "over-runs", dumping, coerced surrender of
copyright, or just straightforward non-payment for work done ... the ways
in which music can be stolen are myriad. MP3 is just another method in this
respect. For others, it's a useful way of getting around the big parasites
in the industry ("The perils of benefactors/The blessings of parasites
...": J. Mitchell).
To return to your assertion that music is "intellectual labour": that is
patent bullshit. Recorded music is materially produced using thousands of
dollars worth of equipment, even at the cheap end of the scale. It takes
weeks, months, and sometimes years of people's lives to produce music. For
musicians, by which I mean people who actually compose on and for
instruments (including voice), years of hard - in fact, tortuous - physical
and intellectual work goes into mastering their trade and art. The current
crop of un-musicians - remixers, samplers, dj's and so on - are merely
parasitic thieves who, thanks to the current cultural and technological
debasement of music as an art form, can parade as "musicians" without,
apparently, feeling any guilt whatsoever. But composing, playing, and
recording music of any quality is damned hard work, even for thieves.
*Pay to play*
As I said, musicians are used to being robbed. The extent to which this has
become the universal state of being in the music industry became very clear
to me as early as 1987 when I was touring the US and got to visit industry
"luminaries". Musos were queueing in one club - I forget which - to pay one
of the band members so that they could get up and jam for a song in the
hope of beeing "seen". I was also shown through a complex of warehouses in
which bands would audition at their own expense for the A&R morons from the
major labels. This included them hiring huge PAs and light shows, etc. They
were paying for the opportunity to be seen, both with money and labour.
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sch

sch

sch



allo.allo.alorz.

as selekt life forms have expressed 0+1 interest in `ideas`
below is 0+1 very faschionable haute couture assignment [sol.la.la]

required data = nato.0+55+vd or nato.0+55+3d
+ nato.0+204 + video digitizer. m9nd kontainer. peut etre.

konstrukt 1 patch which captures live video or filmdata via kapture2
whilst performing various datazmak routines.
upon zatisfaktory kompletion of routine it uploads the rezultat to http://www.m9ndfukc.org/ma!.!=hav.zom.uatr.plz

once a number of films have accumulated at
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/ma!.!=hav.zom.uatr.plz

konstrukt 1 patch which downloads a direktory listing of
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/ma!.!=hav.zom.uatr.plz

it parses the links and downloads a number of the referenced films.
it performs select datazmak operations + upon satisfaktory kompletion of routine
it uploads the rezultat to http://www.m9ndfukc.org/ma!.!=hav.zom.uatr.plz

it repeats steps 0+00 as desired.



kommands which may be utilized inklude. [dokument / kommand]


\/\ nato.0+55+3d+vd

: begin _+? / read
: begin _+? / ztart
: multi.film / f!lm.zet
: kapture2 / kptr2.rekord
: video.digitizer / vd!g.f!lm.path
: begin _+? / !mport2
: the various video digitizer routinez.

regarding kptr2.rekord - will likely be desirable to set the
directory prior to activating the patch since otherwise
one will be prompted for the save lokation.



\/\ nato.0+204

: dounload.synk
: upload.synk
: k!b3rfem!n!z3m
: bang - repet!z!on = teachez humanz


assignment 0+4 in next transmission.

bzzp.


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sch

sch


allo. allo.repet!z!on = teachezhumanz. sol.
- freder!k. zum apel.
- bzump
- vaz he!zt `zvp - repet!z!on = teachezhumanz`


as selekt life forms have expressed 0+1 interest in `ideas`
below is 0+4 assignment [sol.la.la]

required data = nato.0+55 or nato.0+55+3d or nato.0+204. sentiments. peut etre.

konstrukt 1 patch which rapidly accesses one or all of the following urls.

http://www.mcgill.ca/
http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~chris/dear_antiorp.html
http://www.music.mcgill.ca/max/listpolicy.html


repeat step 0+00 as desired.

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\\ why was assignment 0+3 release omitted +?

dzere = numerouz spec!al th!ngz about numbr
4.
there are numerous special things about the number
4.

!t = 1 zkuare numbr.
it is a square number

!t = 1 lukaz numbr +
it is a lucas number and

!t = dze 1zt non.pr!me numbr.
it is the first non-prime number.

!t = dze onl+e numbr dzat dzat kan boazt 1 kuant!t+e ov lettrz = 2 !tz value.
it is the only number that can boast a quantity of letters equal to its value.

!t = reprezentz dze mozt kolorz an+e mapmakr needz 2 guarant!
it represents the most colors any mapmaker needs to guarantee

no 2 kountr!ez -- no mattr dze!r shape -- touch each odr
no 2 countries no matter their shape touch each other




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« 0+00 netochka nezvanova



emma:heller:schum
= had 0+1 daughtr ent!tld beatr!ce
she = dreu bez!er kurvz around modl c!t!znz++
From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger"
Subject: Re: zum parad!sz \+\ h!gh frekuensz! zol!tronz
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www.god-emil.dk id NAA21917
I wish I understood you... I usually just have to delete the messages.
Sad really. Because, I do think you are often saying important things. I do wish you well.
And I have asked Berklee to order Nato and If they don't soon.... I surely will.
All the best for 2000.
db
hallo.
please excuse the tardiness of my reply.
Netochka,

Thanks very much for the translation. I like your suggestion very much and
will change my signature file! Hopefully you will like it better too.
All the best to you.

Rick [sol.la.la]
hallo dear.
i wish you well aussi.
perhaps mention that considering the audience for
the csound cd may wish to adopt a subtler gentler approach.
ciao et bonne anne. netochka.
Personal Webpage: http://home.earthlink.net/~radiobaton/
Everything Csound: http://www.csound.org
BUY!!! The Csound Catalog with Audio: http://www.csounds.com/catalog/
Tips for The Csound Catalog with Audio: http://www.csounds.com/catalog/tips/
_____________________________________________________________
minor modification -> palatable
Personal Webpage: http://home.earthlink.net/~radiobaton/
Everything Csound: http://www.csound.org
PURCHASE??? The Csound Catalog with Audio: http://www.csounds.com/catalog/
Tips for The Csound Catalog with Audio: http://www.csounds.com/catalog/tips/
_____________________________________________________________
From: " "
To: f1f0
Subject: Intriqued
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:23:35 -0800
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Netochka,
Thank you for informing me about your work.
I'd be interested to meet you in person and find out more about your
projects. Are you still in ?


Program Director
European Graduate School


altzo.











l!f 4rm 0 : What exactly is your point?

=cw4t7abs : http://www.amug.org/~hposoft/mercury.html

l!f 4rm 2 : ah. luvl! url. takk.
mercur! says : "hallo. peek. ok. bye bye."

tolstoy : dze mean!nglesz abzurd!t! ov l!fe
= dze onl! !nkonteztabl knouledge aksez!bl
2 humanz


"The meaningless absurdity of life is the only incontestable knowledge
accessible to humans?" So the whole point is that language is essentially
meaningless?

=cw4t7abs : brain make me a sentence.
=cw4t7abs : brain make me happier
=cw4t7abs : brain make me more beautiful
=cw4t7abs : brain make me even happier
=cw4t7abs : brain make me even more beautiful
=cw4t7abs : brain make me another brain
=cw4t7abs : brains make me happier
=cw4t7abs : brains make me more beautiful
=cw4t7abs : brains make me even happier
=cw4t7abs : brains make me even more beautiful
=cw4t7abs : brains make me another brain

interlud : [ param=nteza

brains : hou long u!l d!sz go on +?
=cw4t7abs : t!l dze ver! end

]



RACHEL SMYLY )

"The cat chased the mouse." "The mouse chased the cat." These two sentences contain exactly the
same words, but obviously don¹t mean the same thing. When your brain works out the meaning of
a sentence, it can¹t just rely on the meanings of the individual words: it must also take into
account their context and order"


m9ndfukc : zm!l!ng at modl c!t!znz u!lzt travel!ng hap!l!+er through 0+1
vakuum brush at 220 km\h

nn

" = kan 1 komprehend 0+1 bod! ov teczt b! konzum!ng 1 uord at 0+1 t!me +?"



If you believe that, why do you continue to post here, to talk, to write,
to make any kind of artwork, etc.?

= hav juzt kompltd 0+1 ver! luvl! zkulptr.
= ud u l!ke 2 aku!r !t +? kozt = ultra favorabl. = 50k amer!kn dolarz


It seems that a person who really truly
believed this would shut down all communication, making a Zen monk look
like a chatterbox.


avec ozkar u!lde du akua!ntd = +?
0+1 zuperb m9nd konta!nr = l!beratd l!f energ!e
= palp!tant++

alorz

ue = kan 4g!v 1 l!f 4rm 4 konztrukt!ng 1 uzefl th!ng
tzo long az !t != adm!r !t.
dze onl! eczusz 4 konztrukt!ng 1 uze lesz th!ng = dzat 1 adm!rez !t !ntenzel!.

dze mean!nglesz abzurd!t! ov l!fe
= dze onl! !nkonteztabl knouledge aksez!bl
2 humanz


The rest of us continue, meaningless though it may be,
to try to get ideas across to each other, trying to refine the languages,
tools, and media as we go.

das !zt ganz klar.
= uzeful + uzeful 2 1 odr =
= enzlav 1 odr = signal
= dze aprez!az!on ov uzeflnesz

ma! ! = hav 1 kg ov uzefulnesz +?
ou!. + 2 gramz ov m9ndfukc. !n 1o m!n plz !nzrt +4


After all, what's the point of increasing the
signal-to-noise ratio when it's noisy enough already?

After all, what's the point of increasing the
noise-to-signal ratio when it's signally enough deja?

All that is not information, not redundancy, not form and not restraints
is noise, the only possible source of new patterns."

- Bateson, Mind and Nature - A Necessary Unity, 1979

eczusz 4 konztrukt!ng 1 !ntenzel! adm!rabl th!ng = dzat !t = uze lesz
[hensz free\l!beratd]


--
Tom Igoe - = ur parentz name luvl! =. ur najm z!ll! = quo! +?

= dbapt!ze u =cw4t7abs _ agent zekret ordr 3. numr a t t a

b!e+b!e.


emma:heller:schum
= had 0+1 daughtr ent!tld beatr!ce



Please stop being oblique for the sake of cleverness.

paz kuezt!on

If you're trying to

paz kuezt!on

make a point

paz de tout

about the

non

communications possibilities

cezt ta faute

possibilities of language,

ben ou!


sch!vr++ zuperb trauma
reproduss!ng f!n!te segmentz


email, etc. than please state your point.

then +? l!nez +?


If you're trying to be poetic,

here the subject `I`
there the object universe littered with dead notions
where *I* throw out the rubbish
the impotent gestures
the gasps

`I` leaning on the trunk
`I` feel
my desire to vomit desire

o collapse
ecstacy from which I fall
asleep
when I cry out
you who are and will be
when I negatively shall be more
deaf X
mallet
head
crash

x - attachments

the sparkle
the top of the sky
the earth
the `I`

heart spits out star
incomparable anguish

I laugh but I'm cold

-
-
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da



that's
fine too,

varum b!n !ch !ch

but poetry also has themes,

und varum n!cht du

threads

vann began dze ze!t

,

und vo endet |-- der raum


and states ideas.

!zt daz leben untr der sonne n!cht blosz


So far

e!n traum +?

all I'm getting

sch ____.... oke.


here is veiled references and a vague sense or your
disgruntlement about something or other.

da +? da.


--
Tom Igoe
--


du = zat!zf!ed odr quo! +?
= 0+0 zat!zfkz!on garanz!e. ev!damnt.


oblique

zub!ekt: 1zt european konferensz on algebra!k abztrakt data t!pez |--
formless abstraction striated with fractures heap of inanities of
things forgotten

- k!ndl! 4ward d!sz announszment 2 ur kolleaguez.
nonl!near tranz4maz!onz on kloszd kurvz !n cc


tu!zt!ng about dze y ax!z

t = ay 0
0 1


kompresz!on + eczpanz!on on opoz!t z!dez

t = 1 0
cy 0


eczpanz!on proporz!onl 2 x^2

t = 1 0
0 dx^2


ztretch!ng along dze l!nez u!ch = b!zekt dze axez

t = 1 bxy
cxy 1


ant!z!metr!k bend!ng ov an el!psz

t = cos(c|x|) s!n(c|x|)
-s!n(c|x|) cos(c|x|)




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"My way of acting is intransigeant revendication. I don't mind to have
anybody against me and to be qualified by so much negative concepts. The
most important thing for me is to know who I'm fighting against through
the vacuum brush:

- fascism
- integrism
- racism
- totalitarism
- capitalism
- ultra-lux internationalism

and so on, so on etc.... unterstutzen sie eine umweltgerechte entsorgung

This schema may seem on the formal level quite the same than the one
I'm fighting against. The reason is really simple:

All these kind of negativ ideologies are using a specific language with
specific concepts

Technologies developed for the purposes, and out of the logic, of war,
technologies of simultaneity and coherence, keeping our civilian society in a
state of permanent mobilisation driven by the battle for markets, resources
and spheres of influence"


-
Frederic Madre _ =cw4t7abs agent zekret - ordr a
avec Valery Grancher _ =cw4t7abs agent zekret - ordr b

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- fascism
- integrism
- racism
- totalitarism
- capitalism
ahaha, ->buy<- my ->(what I call) art<-;
no capitalism, no fascism, no etc, or I'll raise the price of my "art" so only
heroes of capitalism in the "gifted" (and (but not they are not the only)
fascism/racism) countries can "buy" it.

antiorp -> takes money for his "art" -> reaction -> be a "number" in a chain of
chains (network like) -> distributed action/work -> dependance -> cooperation
-> pro-orp
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- ultra-lux internationalism
mfg, dein fan noehlie.

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Post by d***@gmx.de
Post by i***@www.god-emil.dk
- fascism
- integrism
- racism
- totalitarism
- capitalism
ahaha, ->buy<- my ->(what I call) art<-;
no capitalism, no fascism, no etc, or I'll raise the price of my "art" so only
heroes of capitalism in the "gifted" (and (but not they are not the only)
fascism/racism) countries can "buy" it.
antiorp -> takes money for his "art" -> reaction -> be a "number" in a chain of
chains (network like) -> distributed action/work -> dependance -> cooperation
-> pro-orp
Post by i***@www.god-emil.dk
- ultra-lux internationalism
mfg, dein fan noehlie.
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frequency and gain tables for hungarian phonemes

stefan prosky t!pd
[luvl! name stefan. stefan possert = mozt zuperb auss!. hallo znurk dear]
OK,
oke. kl!k.kl!k.



sch.
sch.

sch.


typing this is such pleasure....

but their sight is excited with passion
fire light and delight they reflect on
the scales of measure and

and
and

and.

the voices placed side by side and expiring
Time to stop Lurking,.....
will you come and say hi to me
next time you are at DEAF?

all 180 centimeters?
will not be quiet

ps: still in trouble with the mailinglists? I thought you were long
gone from Max? Who cares anyway, you are the best! Next to that, if
you are lonely or need social inspiration, try lurking for a change..
Hello LEVers,
hi there
hi dear
dear
hi
hello little thunderbolt
sweet
modest darling
sorry.
First of a BIG BIG thanks
and another thing:
would be nice if you would be nice
to all of you for such a great source of info.
I am
je tu !l elle
a grad student in animation at SVA in NYC. I've been building a
multimedia instrument from windsynths and quicktime samplers/players. The
LEV list has been a great help with this thesis. Decoding the posts in
custom languages as been genuinely fun too.
fascism = as a form of domination
which maintains the capitalist mode of
production in an advanced capitalist
society which is threatened by a crisis
which challenges and brings into question
the principles on which that society is based
= a diversion and manipulation of the frustrations
and anxieties of the masses flowing with mad abandon
away from the objective source
I wish I could kode one.
I love you
do not hurt yourself
I'm looking for a thesis advisor in NYC or close by,
whats this about coming over here? you write you go to denmark in may,
but will you be in Amsterdam in March?
any suggestions?
Foucault wrote the introduction to Gilles and Deleuze' 'Anti-Oedipus,' which
discusses how to resist power mostly by pointing out how power works and the
adjuncts that go along with it, e.g everyman is a fascist!!!
Volunteers?
I am getting a bit tired of putting energy into you
and telling you how much people like you or your work
Anybody in NYC know how to use Nato, Vidvox, X<>pose or Imagine?
yes sweetie I do
but I have very little time to browse
single parent, other work, rsi
and european phone costs
not everybody is a cybertiger like you

use those face muscles instead of the brain today!
I need a
little help
you are loosing your mind

take a break

going berserk is not going to help anybody
and advice locally.
generation gender gap generating great golden glare
gratification?
More Wetware
date: 9.28.97
From: Lev M ich
Subject: Jump Over Proust--Toward
Multimedia Writing [excerpt]
is better than more Software,
Ich habe es nicht gewusst

does that mean yes or no?

Status:

i like

humanz = lak 1 aparat 4 !magez generaz!on
dusz zpeech re:zearch > komplecz dzn v!z!on re:zearch


so much.

it has been swirling
atleast to a
this lifeform here is only human. who the hell wrote this?
Biologist.
1350 cubic centimeters
do you like your brain?

I was painting brains for years,
that is how I got into this business
extensions of nervous systems ....
I have some comments on your thoughts about machines
and emotion in your interview, later.


ps: can I ask you something?
do you consider your work as art? (seriously)
would you want to exhibit in a big festival or conference? cash included
Thanks, LEV is Da Bomb.
=cw4t7abs !zt dze futur
http://www.gmeb.fr/SoftwareCompetition/Softs99/nebulam81.htm
ultra zkueek \+\ !mmakulate future (seriously)
white as snow
what do you do when you are angry?
kr!
du +?
friend of mine died saturday,
fell down an elevator shaft in a squat



certain postures trigger different emotions, ....
but also because of what the body remembers from this posture.

the state of the body and its environment which
influences the whole consciousness and perception. No thought,
no 'rational' thinking without emotional counterpart. It is one.
Just think of how the brain is built. EVERY 'message' has to pass
the limbic system, to name one. The whole body, the entire human is
involved in a thought. That means everything you see in the mirror,
everything you feel when you touch yourself (or someone else touches
you), everything you experience about your body (sweating, nausea,
excitement, orgasm, pain, tiredness, illness etc) is part of what
determines the way you think and act.

flu and also colds cause depression

= depresz!on az luvl! regard uen depreszd zelf regard de+prezd.

It is a matter of thinking that is not simply data clouds.
I really dislike that, charming as it is too. (you are charming,
I like you)
-Tefman.
are you really danish? why don't you ever show up anywhere?
come to n5m3 if you really are danish.
short circuit kiss (small one)




question:
can a 22 year old be a good lover?


when my daughter was born I said to her father:
I know her smile is just a instinctive reaction
from all babies to their protectors/feeders
it is not love
of course it is love, he said
and he was right
it is as simple as that


sorry.



oke. kl!k.kl!k.



sch.
sch.

sch.


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F U C K I N G B R I L L I A N T !


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just turned onto your page...and its *fucking brilliant!*




*j

I think you are sexy, even if you are a bastard sometimes
so I don't like the idea of exchanging sexy mails
with a dike, no matter how sexy a dike




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=cw4t7abs = dze futur
what's it, anyway? (would you be so kind to answer in basic english phrases,
just for my special-character-ignorant brain)


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Post by i***@www.god-emil.dk
=cw4t7abs = dze futur
what's it, anyway? (would you be so kind to answer in basic english phrases,
just for my special-character-ignorant brain)
=cw4t7abs ou dze futur +?
a a. rerout!ng `=`

4 ever!dz!ng reroutd = muzt
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Post by d***@gmx.de
Post by i***@www.god-emil.dk
=cw4t7abs = dze futur
what's it, anyway? (would you be so kind to answer in basic english phrases,
just for my special-character-ignorant brain)
=cw4t7abs ou dze futur +?
a a. rerout!ng `=`
4 ever!dz!ng reroutd = muzt
b tzo
I had =cw4t7abs in mind, what's it? (beside the future)

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I had =cw4t7abs once.

Penicillin cured it, and now it doesn't itch anymore.
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naja. real t!.m! fotozmak.
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/korporat/nato.0+55+3d_revieuz.html
PS: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't post this message to web-lists.
I have allways respected your posts and have read most of them.
hallo love.
pardon the tardiness of my reply.
may i have some water please ____...


alors. i no one respekt.
do select life forms admire.
thus - may no one know identity.
for your consternation i 1\abhor.
to my consternation, you seem to ask for money for this nato program.
I'd love to try/use it, but I havn't got the money.
lovely it is how you havn't the money got
as personally fond only am of destitute life forms
or very wealthy ones. + naturally - formidable
impostors simultaneously both can be + parallelly so.
I've got only software.
i've got the hardware + 2 massively parallel + equidistant rows of chairs.
I use a M$ visual C++ with a Cubase VST to create plugins.
And, I will distribute the plug for free.
no. no. you mustn't. you mustn't i say.
tis very BAD is free. shall then no one have.
fond of to be. konsiderate please be. or else.
I believe in 'no money-great soft'
i do don't. believe in anything do i +?


apropos nato.0+55 - gratis it isn't.
as in the case of =cw4t7abs `model citizen money`
does not its `heart` beget

currency - http://www.m9ndfukc.org/konkurs/00.html

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So you're critical of institutionalized democratic education? What an easy
task. You don't seem to propose an alternative. Tired of the system. Go to
South Central Los Angeles. That's where the anarchists can really witness
the fraying of governmental control. Better yet, let's send some of the
gangstas up to Seattle to reap some of the fat from their suburban
anarchists. Want more inspirational, free-form, meaningful education?
Write to your congressman to quadruple the education budget. It's
economics, not conspiracy. Use your superior mind to realize that you live
in and have always lived in a machine. Email is just another form of
mind/behavior control. The internet is the narrowing of human sensory
experience.
= l!kl! 1.2.3.4.7 l!f 4rmz = zm!l!ng gentl!
due 2 = akua!ntd u!th prznl znt!mntz apropoz dze !nternet +
komentar! abov.

= !n akord + !n akord u!th `ur` znt!mntz abr
= dze kongresz perzn du = refer 2 != _dze problm.
= dze fasc!zt mazk!ner! = 0+ent!r `human` zoz!et!.


- - apropoz alternat!v

= haz b!n made ultra ganz klar
ma!z = undrtzndabl! 99 proznt ov human l!f 4rmz
= reluktnt 2 abandon dze korporat konglomerat uar\kr!eg karozer!e
juzt az `m!` atomz = reluktnt !n d!zperz!ng
4 fear du || `1` odr = ma! konzum dzm 4 korporat `break fazt`



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dze konglomerat `!` !znt afra!d ov dze konglomerat `u`
dze konglomerat `!` !z afra!d ov dze konglomerat `we`

dze konglomerat `!` !z krntl! zt!ll breath!ng + !ntakt
dze konglomerat `!` ud radzr ceaze 2 breathe dzn

endanger 1 odr konglomerat `!` b! bkom!ng 1 !ntegral ueapon
ov dze konglomerat `we`


ma! do l!ke u!sz - should `u` u!sh 2.
ma! do odr u!sz - should `u` u!sh 2


should `u` do odru!sz - do not eczpektant b ov `m!`
2 regard `u` az 1 luvl! l!f 4rm.


4 `!` = shal regard `u` az 1 murderer.



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Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2000, 3:22 AM
The baby tries to break free and will become enraged if
not liberated immediately.
Now, I would wager that most people agree that human beings have this
freedom instinct. And so I find it astonishing that we spend so much
time and money trying to devise better ways to control people; rather
than channeling innate abilities!
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What was the stand of the ancient Greeks towards apeiron, and why was it
lamentable?
greek uord 4 !nf!n!t! = uaz ape!ron
ar!ztotl = t!pd [sol] !nf!n!t! = 0+1 pr!vaz!on - paz perfekz!on
plato + p!tagoraz auss! = ov op!n!on 0+ alef 1 azpektz ov dze velt
kould b reprezntd b! 0+1 f!n!t arangemnt ov naturl nrz.
What role has apeiron played in the development of Western
philosophical thought?
How many bits does it take to encode one person's lifetime experiences?
Can Nebula.m81 recognize (and act upon) a distinction between data and
meta-data (for example the data that describes a data structure vs. the data
contained in the data structure)?
Isn't there a fundamental problem in making claims about a form of thought
(computer) that humans will never be able to employ, and hence observe and
describe? How will humans ever be able to describe the 'thought' of
chimpanzees? 'Thought' is a human concept, and so how does one ascribe
'thought' to non-humans?
feel



4rom 0+1 ov prev vo!agez
4mal log!k abztrakt + anal!t!kl wa!z ov th!nk!ng t!p!kl! azoz!atd w!th
men hav b!n pr!v!ledged. - v!eud az zuper!or. mor advanszd. mor l!kl! 2
lead 2 `truth`.
I think
! th !nk
fa vourab
l+e
that formal logic and its ilk have been favoured in science, and
in scholarship more generally, not so much because they are 'more
advanced' or even necessarily more likely to lead to the truth, but
because they offer ways of recognizing the truth when it is encountered.
Scientific methods are not the only way of proceeding, but many of us find
it useful to have shared conventions for testing hypotheses.
la +? quo! +?
http://www.m9ndfukc.org/nato.0+00
s!nsz d!f vo!sez = oftn valued d!f !n zoz!et! - dze !dea ov
mult!pl vo!sez takex on 1 pol!t!kl edge.
Okay, but I'm afraid I don't understand the political import of spelling
'society' with a 'z,' apart from the fact that it establishes you as an
orthographic rebel.
mo! +? non. = ultra kal!brajtd + eczakt.
zan!tar!++
What I see here (through the lens of formal logic)
looks like a faulty syllogism: Many good and serious ideas have been
marginalized; I have ideas which I believe are good and wish others to
take seriously; therefore I shall express myself in a marginal idiom.
numerouz f!eldz ov sc!ensz = baszd on !deasz wh!ch
zeem abzurd ma!z en fakt dze! = vra!.
...And we acknowledge their verity because scientific criteria are blind
to whether an idea seems 'abzurd,' and care only about whether it is
consistent with the observable facts.
= feel dze !ron!e +?
odr phpz reztajt = kalkulajt dze !ron!e +?
Integer, your mode of expression has a certain whimsical charm, but I
think it obscures more than it reveals--
dzat u!ch = provabl = uarthlesz.
= ma! !nvezt !n dze ztok market !f !n doubt
! = bkam ultra uealth! b! doubt!ng.
!f du = ud l!ke 2 dansz 4 m!. = shall pa! u handzoml!.
in particular, the degree to which
your assumptions are compatible with those of us willing slaves to
orthographical convention.
= eczpresz!ng 1 dez!r 1 != plaszd aga!nzt `those of us`.
ou! +? svp +? tak.
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"For if someday I should presume to stand
Before the throne of Reason with the news
That Reason had no longer right to reign,
Then all my arguments would have to be
Acceptable to Reason and her rules
Before her resignation could be signed."
--Schrödinger and Pandora, scene v.
m!au - analog pronounszmnt b! [schröd!ngrz] kat

d.t. suzuk! - dze mean!ng ov zator!
prajna - dze !ntu!t!v !mmed!at knouledge ov dze velt spasz.
0+1 karakter!zt!k ov prajna knouledge = dzat !t != taught.
!t = komun!kajtd.

v!jnana = d!zkurz!v anal!t!kl knouledge ov dze velt spasz.
!.e. raz!onl thought. v!jnana knouledge = zeparatd 4rom dze `th!ng` knoun
!.e. 1 zubjekt eczam!n!ng 1 ecztrnl objekt.
v!jnana knouledge = r!tn doun + lernd.
!.e. v!jnana = kan nvr reach !nf!n!t!.

alorz. konzum > ape!ron. zvp ev!damnt.


n!tscje = ztajtd.
we = kalkulajt + dzat we = ma! kalkulajt we = had 2 konztrukt f!kz!on.


\\ kondenzaz!on = takex plasz !n each moment ov wak!ng l!f.





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Don't let the jerks get you down! I've been following you for years on
various lists and we've communicated a bit in the past. You've pointed me
towards some great resources, provided thought provoking insights and
generally made my somewhat nerdy existence more enjoyable! For this I thank
you.
Please don't publish any of this text or if you do, please don't include my
name or e-mail address.
b!ensur. not 2 worr!. bzp.
=cw4t7abs = ape!ron++


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meta-data (for example the data that describes a data structure vs. the data
contained in the data structure)?
quiver, a responsive tone of harmonic complexity. The articulation
of subject interaction as expression, determines the value of its output
packets; the resolution becomes composition, a stratification of data.

For 99.9 percent of the time since our species came to be we were hunters
and foragers, wanderers on the savannas and the steppes. There were no
border guards then, no customs officials.

According to the standpoint mathematicians call Platonism, we do not
create the mental objects we speak of. Instead we find them.

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lo.kalor!e op!n!anatez . gul!bloonz.
+ h!gh frekuensz! zol!tronz. x luv u.
unl!nka6. =cw4t7abs dze futur.
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_>> parental guidance suggested

reproduction is evolutionarily more important than survival
sexual selection as an adaptive learning mechanism

allora. evr! bod! red! +?



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ekzusz m dearezt.
abr varum du = znd m verdz+?
= knou ur verdz + hav oftn thought ur verdz
= b!ond. non+?

4g!v m ma!z feel dzat = b!ond. non+?
!= komprehend cczelf. abr = komprehend du.
due 2 du = hav b!n tzo ver! k!nd az 2 klar!f!
uhere az prznl! = hav b!n evr m!zch!evouz az 2 obfuzkat.

= knou quo!. = 0+1 dez!r = obzerv hou du = feel.
!= uat art!kulabl thoughtz kan b ekztrapolatd 4rm dze m9nd.
= z!ngulr data kan b kommun!katd sanz 0+1 korrupz!on.

zent!mntz <=> traf!k z!gnz <=> !nternaz!onl lang



je su!s elle

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